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Ash Wood and how fragile is it

Discussion in 'The Lumber Yard' started by 4david7, Apr 25, 2017.

  1. 4david7

    4david7 n00b

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    So I recently bought a Thorkild May Pro Mod and it's the first Ash kendama i've ever bought since I heard they're kinda fragile and I am the type of player who drops a kendama on the ground a lot. But I still couldn't resist the temptation to but a slaydawg and from all the Krom Pro Mods, the Thorkild is my fav. I was wondering how fragile is the Ash wood and what tricks I should avoid until the kendama is honed enough.
     
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  2. azleonhart

    azleonhart Moderator Staff Member

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    Yoooo!
    I just ordered myself a TK mod as well!

    Having jammed with my Nihon Ash to bits, i can tell you that ash is not a fragile wood.
    If anything, it's much better (IMO) than it's maple counterpart, and when jammed well, it rewards you with superb stalls!
     
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  3. lategreat808

    lategreat808 DS Legend

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    Yeah I have never had problems with ash at all, I have jammed numerous ash kens and never got even a single chip. I would say since its a slaydawg your best bet would be to play over grass anyways but I wouldnt be to ultra anal about it. Like the saying goes, destroy all damas.
     
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  4. Congarranza

    Congarranza DS Legend

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    I have a full ash kenCo shenzu natty with no sign of chipping and the clickity clack is awesome! I also and using a HG ash Ken with a maple silk tama and the Ken is fantastic! Both kens are light! ~65g. The ash tamas are ~72-74g. My HG ash tama nattty on a HG fruit punch. LOTS of wear and denting, but not a single chip. Ash is fun. I recommend it.
     
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  5. Cheech_Sander

    Cheech_Sander Administrator Staff Member

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    As already said, ash is not fragile. It's a little grainier, so I could see it breaking in a little more "chippy" than beech or birch, which tend to wear in smoothly, but I think it's fairly hard amd durable.

    Also, I think this post belongs in the Lumber Yard since it is about a specific wood.
     
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  6. 4david7

    4david7 n00b

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    Thanks man! I was saying that Ash Wood is quite fragile cuz i got some friends with ash damas who managed to get a chip in the first days of owning it.
     
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  7. 4david7

    4david7 n00b

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    #destroyalldamas
     
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  8. Primechicken

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    I agree that Ash is not a fragile wood. Most "fragile" woods generally aren't used for kendamas (think Pine, Spruce, etc.)

    I'd disagree that it's superior to maple however. I've played both a lot and have chipped both, but in my experience, and conversations with other players Ash is just more susceptible to chipping.

    That being said, it does not stop many people from playing Ash. Raw grainy ash can be super grippy for stall tricks for sure. I honestly have a tough choice choosing between the two because they're both so good. Destroy all damas, yo!
     
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  9. Jasper B.

    Jasper B. Slayer

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    I love ash, bit have chipped them numerous times. The spike stayed sharp forever though, so I am not sure what was going on with that.
     
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  10. Fadwil

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    while they seem to chip based on the grain pattern, ash wood is pretty durable, they are the longest lasting spikes imo
     
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  11. Congarranza

    Congarranza DS Legend

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    I have noticed with the wider grain patterns, that glue takes and settles really well. My ash spikes are sharp and straight. This seems to hold true for my hickory ken too.
     
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  12. Duke Dean

    Duke Dean Member

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    i have an ash kaizen 2.0 that i almost only do space walk tricks with and it has not chipped at all and the dents from missed spikes are super small, the wood feels amazingly smooth especially the feeling of the grain, and ash wood smells pretty great too lol
     
    May 2, 2017
  13. htimSxelA

    htimSxelA Moderator Staff Member

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    Ash is definitely more prone to chipping than maple on average, but it will depend on the exact piece of wood. It is very possible to get an ash kendama that can take a beating well.
     
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  14. azleonhart

    azleonhart Moderator Staff Member

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    Mannn i have no idea what ash Krom uses, but mannnn does it stand up to abuse!
     
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