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Persimmon kendamas?

Discussion in 'The Lumber Yard' started by Donald Grant, Dec 15, 2017.

  1. Donald Grant

    Donald Grant Member

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    Ok, question mainly for the North American community. There's been a massive expansion in the different woods used for kendamas in the last five or six years, yet I've yet to see anyone making/ marketing anything in persimmon. Beautiful colour, durable, yet no-one seems to have taken it on.
    Is it a question of difficulty of sourcing? Turning? Consistency? Anyone know?
     
    Dec 15, 2017
  2. Guy LaBorde

    Guy LaBorde Honed Member

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    This should be moved to the Lumberyard @goenKendama @azleonhart @htimSxelA

    This topic is interesting, because I was just researching this wood! Is it supposedly has similar qualities to Ebony, so it could be turnable.
    It would be sweet to see kendamas made from this wood
     
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  3. Jasper B.

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    I really want to see some damas out of Persimmon. Hard and beutiful! @htimSxelA?
     
    Dec 15, 2017
  4. xplodit

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    I’d like to see a kendama made out of a giant wood burl. Anyone seen anything crazy like that?
     
    Dec 16, 2017
  5. Cheech_Sander

    Cheech_Sander Administrator Staff Member

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    example:
     
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  6. Jedi_man

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    I'd really like to see that! What I've also been hoping for is a Cedar wood kendama!
     
    Dec 16, 2017
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  7. htimSxelA

    htimSxelA Moderator Staff Member

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    Hmm I've never tried working with persimmon wood, it definitely isn't something readily available like other species. I'll keep an eye out for it in the future though!

    Just a heads up, cedar is generally really soft, and low density. I would expect a ken made from cedar to weigh ~55 grams
     
    Dec 18, 2017
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  8. Jasper B.

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    Yeah. I don't really think cedar would work either, but Im gonna try to get my hands on some persimmon. Probably not the best for a turned loke me just getting into it, but if I see some, I will test it out!
     
    Dec 18, 2017
  9. goenKendama

    goenKendama Administrator Staff Member

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    FWIW: Persimmon Janka Hardness: 2,300 lbf (10,230 N)
    American Beech Janka Hardness: 1,300 lbf (5,780 N)



    Source: The Wood Database
     
    Dec 19, 2017
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